Legacy of the North
Misc. => Technical Support => Topic started by: Shanra on July 13, 2008, 01:25:44 AM
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So far:
* Crafting menu has the edit armor and helmet options
* Paladins are missing some of their horse options
* Tailoring Model's default clothing is back to the red bathing suit
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What's with the chop? I turned down all my graphics and everything, restarted, etc., and it's no different from when they're at max. Choppy.
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I had that problem. I did a full reinstall and that fixed it, but it might work to drag your ini files to the desktop and start the game with a clean slate (they'll get re-created).
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It turned out to be a video driver that needed to be updated. The option through Windows won't do it, you've got to go directly to the manufacturer's page and download it.
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DMFI languages aren't working.
(I think I fixed it in the 080713b release, we'll know soon.)
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The PC's Craft Menu has Reverted to the Standard NWN One. No Cloak-Colour changing.
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Language processing is enabled for even the DM channel. Why?
DM's don't automatically understand all languages, but they should.
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Mount actions skin is -still- not working right.
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If you remove the mount from your party. You can't get it back.
But the ability to summon multiples is fixed.
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Languages are working now, but whispered languages don't appear in the log for others (so you can't understand them).
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Languages are working now, but whispered languages don't appear in the log for others (so you can't understand them).
I don't know what this means. What's "the log"?
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Referring to combat log. It doesn't say "Kiri is speaking in whatever" if I whisper (/w) it, even if another player is able to hear my whisper.
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Using the skinning Knife attempts to skin the animal three times. (You only get one pelt still)
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The third time is the charm??
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First time, actually. but it tries twice more and it takes ages when you're trying to run something like the bat cave.
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That's because all of the tag-based unique powers fire three times instead of once. I think tsu is aware of it
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I know the new OnActivates come with built in tag-based scripting, which likely means they're running in addition to the old scripts.
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Well, I've got the Mount Actions feat working for everyone again. And I've got the item activation count down to 1.73 ... it usually fires twice, but sometimes only once. >.<
I'll let you know more when I know more.
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Miranda says there's some faction bugs. Don't kill gazelles on Lipalli, or all townsfolk everywhere rise up and beat you down.
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The Soulless in the lower crypt appeared to me as floating Lizardfolk
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Like in a dream?!
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Yes, i have sexy dreams about Lizardfolk :P
But On another look at the soulless, they actually look normal, but there's a lizardfolk floating above them. Same goes for the Demons, only its Aarin Gend Floating above them.
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Miranda says there's some faction bugs. Don't kill gazelles on Lipalli, or all townsfolk everywhere rise up and beat you down.
told you about this a long time ago. Back when the island was put in. This is totally not a 1.69 oops.
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Yes, i have sexy dreams about ... Aarin Gend ...
You should screenshot that.
Anyways, had some trouble with the new tailoring dummies. Was working for a long time on one, then walked over to another, equipped armor to it, then equipped cloak to it, then tried to equip sheild to it and that's where the problem started. No sheild visible on model, and changing appearance gave the error below, without making any sheild visible.
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/childers79/TailoringError.jpg)
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Companions don't go into stealth/detect mode with me anymore. Before, for example, if I had my familiar out and went into detect mode, my familiar would also go into detect mode, but it doesn't seem to work anymore.
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Companions don't go into stealth/detect mode with me anymore. Before, for example, if I had my familiar out and went into detect mode, my familiar would also go into detect mode, but it doesn't seem to work anymore.
Have you tried it in the past couple days? I made a fix. If it's still not working for you, let me know what sort of companion it is (animal companion, summon, familiar, dominated creature), and I'll try again.
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It wasn't working for me earlier today and yesterday, I don't know if it was working before you made a fix since I don't check it that often. It wasn't working for my familiar.
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logclients are messed up. They are logging double.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Wed Jul 23 21:00:35] Kyrinna Whitefeather: *turns her gaze slowly between the two*
[WhiteFeather50] Kyrinna Whitefeather: [Talk] *turns her gaze slowly between the two*
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Wed Jul 23 21:00:48] Dagny: Killed. *nodded, her voice near a whisper*
[Miranda LeGris] Dagny: [Talk] Killed. *nodded, her voice near a whisper*
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Wed Jul 23 21:01:17] Dagny: *turns away, staring toward the fire*
[Miranda LeGris] Dagny: [Talk] *turns away, staring toward the fire*
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Wed Jul 23 21:01:20] Valas: My condolenses for your loss.
[Sakes] Valas: [Talk] My condolenses for your loss.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Wed Jul 23 21:01:51] Genevieve Mordrine: I'm... sorry.
[-Zodiac-] Genevieve Mordrine: [Talk] I'm... sorry.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Wed Jul 23 21:01:56] Dagny: *her brow furrows*
[Miranda LeGris] Dagny: [Talk] *her brow furrows*
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Wed Jul 23 21:02:10] Genevieve Mordrine: *moves to her quickly*
[-Zodiac-] Genevieve Mordrine: [Talk] *moves to her quickly*
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Wed Jul 23 21:02:22] Dagny: Strange, my automatic response is thank you. *shaking her head*
[Miranda LeGris] Dagny: [Talk] Strange, my automatic response is thank you. *shaking her head*
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Wed Jul 23 21:02:34] [ Your character's progress has been recorded. ]
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Wed Jul 23 21:02:34] Valas uses item's special power.
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Wed Jul 23 21:03:02] Genevieve Mordrine: *places her hand on her shoulder* Does your mother know yet?
[-Zodiac-] Genevieve Mordrine: [Talk] *places her hand on her shoulder* Does your mother know yet?
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Wed Jul 23 21:04:06] Dagny: I don't want your....*lifts her shoulder, brushing off her hand*
[Miranda LeGris] Dagny: [Talk] I don't want your....*lifts her shoulder, brushing off her hand*
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Wed Jul 23 21:04:27] Genevieve Mordrine: *Gives her a look of confusion*
[-Zodiac-] Genevieve Mordrine: [Talk] *Gives her a look of confusion*
[CHAT WINDOW TEXT] [Wed Jul 23 21:04:27] Kyrinna Whitefeather: *seems a bit stunned at the news*
[WhiteFeather50] Kyrinna Whitefeather: [Talk] *seems a bit stunned at the news*
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Here's the screenie. Bad quality, sorry.
(http://a919.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/1/l_57f42dec07facf10275d4642a1f9d7c6.jpg)
Lizardfolk on the left, and Aarin Gend above the demon in the middle.
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I'm going to ask another builder to fix the appearance problems with the Soulless and the Demons. It's something anyone who is familiar with Toolset can handle, and I'm up to my ears in scripty stuff. Thanks for reporting it, keep the bug notifications coming!
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Languages: Thieves' Cant
It keeps cutting off our messages after some point in the translation, usually 24 or so letters over.
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Yarr, thats how Thieves' Cant is meant to be. Its a small & swift set of movements like tugging the ear or scratching the nose, etc, so you can't fit huge paragraphs of speech in it.
I think the language is mostly meant to be for quick commands / orders, or information sharing. Not so much actual talking between people.
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I think he's talking about the translation, which technically should come across complete. Even if you're saying "I'm going to get something to eat" it should produce the full translation instead of "I'm going to get something" which I've seen in the past.
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Aye, thats what i mean. 'cause of Thieves Cant being small, short movements you can only fit a certain amount of characters into it. What he's describing is pretty much how its designed to be. You can only fit a few words into it.
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It's still confusing, it'd bring up the question "Get something to what? Food? Drink?" Which would actually come out as "Get something to wha".
Confusing as hell.
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It does make sense if it's only for a quick command or somesuch... Imagine trying to give a speech with it! XD
Wish there'd have been a bit more warning that it's limited, though, like, on the description.
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Anyone know exactly how craft trap works? The DC's for crafting, according to the text, aren't matching up with my skill and success rate. It seems to be either 100% or 0% chance, though you do occasionally loose the components on a failed attempt as you are supposed to.
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Thieves' Cant has a limit of 25 characters. That's a DMFI limit that's always been there I'm not gonna change it. If you want to say "I'm going to get something to eat", shorten that to something like "I get food now."
As for craft trap ... no idea. Moth might know. But it's also entirely possible I broke it all to hell when I updated to CEP 2.1, since it has a crafting system built in. I don't know how either of them work. Does anyone?
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I took a look at the crafting scripts on Lotn. It looks like instead of a random d20 Craft Trap roll in order to create the trap in question, you automatically Take 10. So, you automatically succeed if you're within 10, but you also automatically fail if you aren't within 10.
The DCs for the traps look like they're default - you can look them up on nwn wikia or whatever.
Edit: On a second look, it's notable that this change was made in the include file, x0_inc_skills. So, depending on when the actual craft scripts were compiled, this may or may not be accurate. It's possible they may just be outdated and all need to be recompiled (I think there are like 5 for crafting traps, 1 for each difficulty).
Also I think we need a place to buy quartz crystals nudge nudge. I couldn't find them anywhere >.>
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I took a look at the crafting scripts on Lotn.
Did you look at a copy of the module built after July 12? Because that's about when I updated to 1.69 and CEP 2.1. If you're looking at anything prior to that, there's no guarantee that those scripts are still in place and used.
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Yeah, I was looking at the July 20 one.
On a third examination I think those scripts are running properly. They are just slightly modified from the default system.
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I think there really is no modification aside from the d20 roll becoming a take 10. Never got around to making it right. The main problem is how the default system handles material loss. Because it can't tell by how much you failed your roll, it just rolls a percent chance of losing them if you fail. It's pretty silly, especially with a take 10 adjustment.
I think the take 10 came about because people got frustrated sitting there and rerolling for something they just wanted to make a few of, because traps just aren't all that to be worth that kind of time and effort. A couple people moaned that they didn't like the 10, because they "wanted the chance at doing better," and didn't mind the rerolling if it came with a reward. I forget what I said I was going to do to it and didn't, but I suppose I can either:
a) Remove material loss and change the dialog to say things like "Craft Trap Skill 5" instead of "DC 15".
b) Change it back to the default d20 roll and let the persistant rollers have their Deadly level traps at level 10ish.
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For what it's worth I'd prefer (b.
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Zodiac says OCC says Endurance has a bug that will kill you if you have one HP. If anybody has useful information on this bug, post it.
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prob the simple spell waers off and kills you because you lose health... and i'm guessin that is when he was recently buffed by furin...heh had to go pass out.
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I didn't think it was a bug, or at least it hasn't been. It's one of the risks of boosting your health, or polymorphing.
If you unshift, shift into something with less health (Not in the case of NWN!), or lose health/constitution in general, you could die simply by 'System shock', where health hits 0 or below. I've had enough characters over the years die due to unshifting with little to no health, haven't heard someone manage it with spells though.
If anything, the only 'fix' would probably make it give only temporary HP instead of Constitution.
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It makes sense. After all, if you've got 3 hp left and endurance running, you're living on borrowed time. You SHOULD die, when the spell runs out. =D
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When you gain CON, you gain HP. When you lose CON, you lose HP. If this loss in HP would cause you to die, then you die.
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Yes, you can literally wake up dead - or is it just a bad dream?
(http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a242/childers79/Dead_Tired.jpg)
(Since rest is a good way to lose that extra Con)
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I thought Zodiac and OCC knew all about this. Zodiac didn't specify, I got the idea that there was some new bug.
So I'm gonna assume it's working like it always has and as designed, unless I get specific information otherwise.
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It's the endurance spell. When you rest it could essentially kill you because you'll have more HP than normal, thus causing system shock.
Example:
Player has 132 hp standard without endurance
Endurance casted gives player 150 hp
Player rests and loses the extra hp
system shock occurs and player ends up dead.
The game automatically takes all the extra hp away when the person rests and they end up at death's door.
that is the best way I can explain this.
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That only happens if you go from 132 hp, to 150; and at the moment when you rest, you're at 18 hp or less. It's supposed to work like that. The extra HP awarded by the endurance spell are the last to go, when you take damage. Meaning, you're living on borrowed time; when the spell effect dies out, if you've only got those borrowed hp, you die.
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I don't really see any contradictions here. It's been described exactly how it's supposed to work. When you gain CON, you gain both maximum and current hit points. When you lose CON, you lose both maximum and current hit points. If losing those hit points would reduce you to a fatal hit point total, then you're dead.
It's most common when people rest with Endurance (since it's not unfrequent that you rest at low hp and have endurance on), but it can happen in any instance where your CON score is reduced. I've died in a similar fashion two other different ways. Once I de-equipped a con staff when I was at 1 hp (NOTE: THAT WAS A STUPID THING TO DO), the other time I got poisoned to like 4 con.
As an interesting side note, if you remove a con item and it kills you, the combat log says that the item killed you (eg Resilient Quarterstaff), not "Someone" or yourself.
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It would happen more often, if Endurance had a normal spell duration. But, it never got the duration tweak when the days got slowed, and so it lasts for a sickly long time. Otherwise, people would be dropping dead at seemingly random intervals much more often.
Maybe we should fix it, huh. :twisted:
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It would happen more often, if Endurance had a normal spell duration. But, it never got the duration tweak when the days got slowed, and so it lasts for a sickly long time. Otherwise, people would be dropping dead at seemingly random intervals much more often.
Maybe we should fix it, huh. :twisted:
Naaaaaaaah............
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Tailoring models don't allow for metal on helmets to change. Some don't allow shield changes.
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I was noticing the same thing as well, both shields and weapons. Not all but some. I noticed it happens if either weapon or sheild had an enchantment or bonus on it.